Post by madhatter on Mar 6, 2008 2:28:45 GMT 1
Police are investigating whether the fatal stabbing of a man in a park in Lancashire was related to an alleged attack on his son five months ago.
Mohammed Raja Shafiq, 50, was hit on the head and stabbed as he tried to stop trouble at Thompson Park in Burnley on Tuesday.
About 10 people were involved but up to 50 others watched, police said.
A lake is being drained in a search for the weapon. Five men are being held in connection with the incident.
Lancashire police said the attack was not racially motivated.
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lancashire/7278856.stm
I was discussing this story earlier and they asked "when did it become acceptable for people to use weapons in fights, it seems the norm now and nothing much seems to be done to resist it"
He's quite right of course, it does seem to have become normal and quite acceptable to use weapons, glass and bottles especially, but also knifes bars, guns and stun guns.
A Stun Gun was also in the news today, a guy actually got a prison sentence for using one, twice, once while his victim was down, and the kicking him fracturing his eye socket in doing so.
Also two men who were confronted by a man who's car they'd just thrown a cholocolate bar in to punched him to the ground, hitting his head on the kerb and killing him. They will also get a prison sentence.
I personally think the problem lies in to weak a punishment for violent crimes, from a punch up outside a pub to a murder. It only seems to be the murders that get a custodial sentence. Pub brawls were people are glassed and scarred for life rarely seem to even go to court, and if they do its a fine, damages and a suspended sentence if any.
A fraud case on the other hand tends to attract a custodial sentence, a crime that although can cause hardship, is not is not harmful to peoples lives. This seems a backward way of sentencing to me and makes poor use of our overcrowded prisons.
Surely they violent crime should be given the prison sentence and the fraud should be given community service and a tag. severe prison sentences for these people who think nothing of using violence is the only way to curb this trend.
Mohammed Raja Shafiq, 50, was hit on the head and stabbed as he tried to stop trouble at Thompson Park in Burnley on Tuesday.
About 10 people were involved but up to 50 others watched, police said.
A lake is being drained in a search for the weapon. Five men are being held in connection with the incident.
Lancashire police said the attack was not racially motivated.
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lancashire/7278856.stm
I was discussing this story earlier and they asked "when did it become acceptable for people to use weapons in fights, it seems the norm now and nothing much seems to be done to resist it"
He's quite right of course, it does seem to have become normal and quite acceptable to use weapons, glass and bottles especially, but also knifes bars, guns and stun guns.
A Stun Gun was also in the news today, a guy actually got a prison sentence for using one, twice, once while his victim was down, and the kicking him fracturing his eye socket in doing so.
Also two men who were confronted by a man who's car they'd just thrown a cholocolate bar in to punched him to the ground, hitting his head on the kerb and killing him. They will also get a prison sentence.
I personally think the problem lies in to weak a punishment for violent crimes, from a punch up outside a pub to a murder. It only seems to be the murders that get a custodial sentence. Pub brawls were people are glassed and scarred for life rarely seem to even go to court, and if they do its a fine, damages and a suspended sentence if any.
A fraud case on the other hand tends to attract a custodial sentence, a crime that although can cause hardship, is not is not harmful to peoples lives. This seems a backward way of sentencing to me and makes poor use of our overcrowded prisons.
Surely they violent crime should be given the prison sentence and the fraud should be given community service and a tag. severe prison sentences for these people who think nothing of using violence is the only way to curb this trend.